tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post6965490634182124451..comments2024-03-27T04:42:08.504+13:00Comments on Fields of Blood: Magic - My Favourite Part of the GamePete Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14352990006052067650noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-36110074776677750442013-11-08T05:38:37.357+13:002013-11-08T05:38:37.357+13:00I like the magic phase.
The mind battle of PD vs D...I like the magic phase.<br />The mind battle of PD vs DD rolling, the need and ability to change your magic tactics to suit the flow of the game to get the most from your phase.<br />But my favourite part of it actually starts list pointing.<br />One of the wonderfull things about 8th is you get 2D6 dice a turn "SO you may as well use them" (Yay Dwarfs) which means every list has to work out how the plan to maximise its efficiency. Choice of Lores to reflect your other unit choices, items on wizards and where you are going to hide those squishy bastards to get the most from them.<br />But then iv always loved theory hammer!<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14417397799562062350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-3782682009991512612013-11-07T16:56:53.015+13:002013-11-07T16:56:53.015+13:00No I'm not missing the point, I just don't...No I'm not missing the point, I just don't agree with you....and nor would it appear do the majority of TOs/Umpires worldwide.<br /><br />We'll just have to disagree. Cant see either of us changing our minds<br />Pete Dunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14352990006052067650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-89604179493774836442013-11-07T16:38:32.703+13:002013-11-07T16:38:32.703+13:00Your missing the point. I am not talking about the...Your missing the point. I am not talking about the ability to roll for spells on multiple tables (which is fine), I am talking about the ability to chop and change lores between games in a tournament.<br /><br />Jossyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18386542471306291066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-42844118313435089042013-11-07T16:09:55.290+13:002013-11-07T16:09:55.290+13:00That's because your army is broken!
However a...That's because your army is broken!<br /><br />However at least you don't use those Ethereals that "rort" the movement phasePete Dunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14352990006052067650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-83756514708122031862013-11-07T16:07:57.141+13:002013-11-07T16:07:57.141+13:00Don't we use the GW FAQs for tournaments?
I t...Don't we use the GW FAQs for tournaments?<br /><br />I think you are really grasping at straws to try and change a rule you don't like and that the majority (if not all) events here and overseas don't play the way you intend. Not even the ETC that stamps the fun out of gaming as a matter of course follows your logic.<br /><br />The mention of units with spells demonstrates that there are many examples where individual books/units break the usual conventions. <br /><br />I find it amusing you are happy for one set to break conventions but another instance becomes a rort.<br /><br /><br />Pete Dunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14352990006052067650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-32738386682420100052013-11-07T15:56:52.933+13:002013-11-07T15:56:52.933+13:00Certainly a phase I could personally improve on, m...Certainly a phase I could personally improve on, my favorite is the movement phase.Kiwi Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02554025268598951420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-77978520395919919632013-11-07T15:49:51.245+13:002013-11-07T15:49:51.245+13:00Hardly.
I'd like to point out how you used t...Hardly. <br /><br />I'd like to point out how you used the GW FAQ to justify changing lores on a Seer throughout a tournament. The GW FAQ was never written to encompass tournament play, and infact I was pointing directly at player pack comps making a specific ruling around this. This is not a rule change as the rule is designed for one off games.<br />I cannot fathom how a claim can be made that the Seer pays for this design, as the design is intended for one off games. In this situation it is perfectly fine, but having the option to tailor your spell list during a tournament is an ability no other race has access to.<br /><br />A simple "Skaven seer must elect the number of spells they wish to roll from each lore at the beginning of the tournament for the whole tournament"<br /><br />I to read about the same situation re Kairos, hence why I stipulated how it should be played in tournaments IMO.<br /><br />At the end of the day we need to create player packs for the very reason the game was not written for tournament play in mind. <br /><br />The mention of units with spells is completely unrelated to the subject of Seers.Jossyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18386542471306291066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-5632691622162787052013-11-07T13:52:58.275+13:002013-11-07T13:52:58.275+13:00I've seen exactly the opposite and in fact men...I've seen exactly the opposite and in fact mention was made on a recent UK podcast that a player had lists of spells prepared for each army.<br /><br />But given he's a SC I'd be happy to see the end of him.<br /><br />The Skaven situation is not a rort it a the rule put in place when they released the last book. the wording is clear and unequivocal. A GS gets to choose to roll from either lore and can mix and match. Presumably recognition of that ability was included in the pricing of the Seer.<br /><br />Will they keep it if they re-do the book? I don't know. They hadn't use it previously in 7th and we haven't seen it at all in 8th. If I had to bet I suspect that Skaven would get two signature spells but that's a guess. At the time the fact that there were 13 spells was paraded as a unique point of difference.<br /><br />Other armies have units that by your description rort the system e.g. Horrors and Warlocks in that the can generally micast with far greater protection that most casters or Warlocks in that they take spells from two lores or the new all signature wizs.<br /><br />Do you think comp packs should change these rorts* as well? <br /><br />* you say rorts, I'd say rulesPete Dunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14352990006052067650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-78282361587666917442013-11-07T13:38:11.875+13:002013-11-07T13:38:11.875+13:00He can pick each of his spells. Tournament packs I...He can pick each of his spells. Tournament packs Ive seen make him pick his spells and keep the same ones the whole tournament. No changing.<br />Point I am trying to make is this is a rort to the system that every other army uses at a tournament. Jossyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18386542471306291066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-63131471180523645452013-11-07T11:57:31.910+13:002013-11-07T11:57:31.910+13:00Kairos...is the same isn't he?Kairos...is the same isn't he?Pete Dunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14352990006052067650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-18521257093526615002013-11-07T11:53:36.412+13:002013-11-07T11:53:36.412+13:00I wouldnt call myself a shieldbearer for RAW, but ...I wouldnt call myself a shieldbearer for RAW, but it is an obvious 7th edition hangover. Skaven are the only race who can pick and choose game to game what lore they use at tournaments. I've always found it odd that it has been left in.Jossyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18386542471306291066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-58205918810567826382013-11-07T11:25:55.727+13:002013-11-07T11:25:55.727+13:00I loved using the same lore as him with my lvl4. I...I loved using the same lore as him with my lvl4. I would roll up my 4 spells and there would be thus blank look of "I don't know which spells you have rolled" on his face when he saw my dice. Great memories.<br /><br />I find the magic phase very rewarding. Even down to picking the right lore to use. I switched off light to heavens all year and I enjoyed all the subtle differences it made to how my empire army operated.Joelatronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05267751235327398650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-77539419269560703342013-11-07T10:47:46.554+13:002013-11-07T10:47:46.554+13:00Weakness, James, weakness
BTW shouldn't you b...Weakness, James, weakness<br /><br />BTW shouldn't you be at Ladies DayPete Dunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14352990006052067650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-78855842707781987522013-11-07T10:37:08.195+13:002013-11-07T10:37:08.195+13:00I did find that comment odd, though more because, ...I did find that comment odd, though more because, why wouldnt you take it if you had the option? More spells equals more options equals more ways to play wuth your opponents head. Sounds like you all over, Pete?James Milnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-3806630181459639892013-11-07T10:35:32.753+13:002013-11-07T10:35:32.753+13:00Yes....and a little bit of me died insideYes....and a little bit of me died insidePete Dunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14352990006052067650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-29308371218867973432013-11-07T10:30:24.090+13:002013-11-07T10:30:24.090+13:00Didn't Tom use Lore Master consistently with h...Didn't Tom use Lore Master consistently with his Daemons before the new book? "Competitive Dad" gas_monkey82https://www.blogger.com/profile/01172828988506275382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-58288915740187359072013-11-07T10:27:25.054+13:002013-11-07T10:27:25.054+13:00And there was me thinking you were the Shieldbeare...And there was me thinking you were the Shieldbearer for RAW.<br /><br />Guess it depends on the circumstancesPete Dunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14352990006052067650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-8135201176246449722013-11-07T10:24:20.667+13:002013-11-07T10:24:20.667+13:00"I’ve always had disdain for people who have ..."I’ve always had disdain for people who have Loremaster"<br /><br />Yet Skaven are still aloud to chose the lore they want before each game. I am still amazed comp packs have not changed this rort.Jossyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18386542471306291066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-82916586612528702812013-11-07T10:14:39.916+13:002013-11-07T10:14:39.916+13:00Historically I have never really enjoyed the magic...Historically I have never really enjoyed the magic phase, mainly because with Orc and Goblins, rolling 1's generally means bad things, and you can get spells off but then have them fail because of a special rule... or bounce back and bite you...<br /><br />Prior to skitterleap, I had a re-think about the lore I would take and started playing around with Heavens. I think it is the change to Ogres, when I can try the rule book lords, that has increased my enjoyment. <br /><br />At skitter leap it was really good to play around with the synergies of hex/augment of Heavens/Maw and have fireball plus comet sitting in the back pocket for people to worry about... working out how they can play together and trying to outfox the opponent is a good mental challenge.<br /><br />nice post pete, although I think you need to talk to a respected someone about your little 'dwarf thing', reminds me of a modified version of a quote some minor author wrote ' me thinks Pete doth protest too much'<br /><br />:-)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com