tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post7979581168047861901..comments2024-03-30T01:28:34.826+13:00Comments on Fields of Blood: High Elves - Evidence of Power Creep?Pete Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14352990006052067650noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-74102834507659019082013-05-07T18:55:37.264+12:002013-05-07T18:55:37.264+12:007pt Storm vermin. As if you would ever give them a...7pt Storm vermin. As if you would ever give them a shield. To be honest Storm vermin are actually really good !!! the rest of army book is just hell of alot better...<br /><br />Yup High Elves will still suffer from lack of bodies, But that's how it should bePaWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04020409541094456187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-16496030549280532512013-05-07T14:23:29.027+12:002013-05-07T14:23:29.027+12:00Ha ha blog/forum meh? Don't worry Simon we...Ha ha blog/forum meh? Don't worry Simon we're just keeping it real...don't forget it also has oysters and Tim Shadbolt!Roriusmaximushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16503326337841075314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-7162976800224430942013-05-07T13:56:27.503+12:002013-05-07T13:56:27.503+12:00Not Forum I meant blog, oops. Not Forum I meant blog, oops. Simon Switzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17730143851750822114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-927703190872346322013-05-07T13:53:32.598+12:002013-05-07T13:53:32.598+12:00To be perfectly honest Tim, Auckland is as close t...To be perfectly honest Tim, Auckland is as close to the 'real world' as we'll get in New Zealand, what with the economic and population rising in the city where as places like Wellington and Christchurch are losing major companies to Auckland especially corporate head offices and other major business.<br /><br />But whats happening in Invercargill again? I heard the worlds fastest Indian is there!<br /><br />Wait, this is a wargaming forum! lol<br /><br /> Simon Switzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17730143851750822114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-27054526333687128792013-05-07T13:41:56.345+12:002013-05-07T13:41:56.345+12:00I will never give up John, well, until the book co...I will never give up John, well, until the book comes out then I guess I have to :P. lolSimon Switzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17730143851750822114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-30809424817662692572013-05-07T13:18:58.017+12:002013-05-07T13:18:58.017+12:00Yeah yeah T3 Skaven vs. T3 High Elves - but then y...Yeah yeah T3 Skaven vs. T3 High Elves - but then you dont see 2400pt High Elf lists with 4 blocks of 40-50 Spears alah Skaven list and their blocks of slaves/clan rats AND all of the extra bells and whistles that go with it.<br /><br />Dont get me wrong the new rules seem great and HE remain a strong army. But they are still brittle - now when they give my GW weilding T4 Dwarfs ASF or a Martial Prowess equivalent that will be just beautiful. Bloomfield Cricket Clubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17638828532075913255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-84450003888627176182013-05-07T12:57:58.049+12:002013-05-07T12:57:58.049+12:00Oh so your talking skaven elites eh. Just as cheap...Oh so your talking skaven elites eh. Just as cheap as the cheapest elf still?Jossyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18386542471306291066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-80849914313332839072013-05-07T12:45:09.639+12:002013-05-07T12:45:09.639+12:00Yep the 8pt Stormvermin....Yep the 8pt Stormvermin....Pete Dunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14352990006052067650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-6598102815879118992013-05-07T12:39:37.877+12:002013-05-07T12:39:37.877+12:00You mean 2 point T3 skaven, as opposed to 9 point ...You mean 2 point T3 skaven, as opposed to 9 point T3 elves?<br />People use bloodletters now? I thought everyone played Nurgle Daemons =PJossyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18386542471306291066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-26572482115074164232013-05-07T12:32:29.930+12:002013-05-07T12:32:29.930+12:00Apparently Skaven missed the day when passes for T...Apparently Skaven missed the day when passes for T3 were being given out.<br /><br />Bloodletters also had a cold that dayPete Dunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14352990006052067650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-12518349303675241532013-05-07T11:20:41.795+12:002013-05-07T11:20:41.795+12:00Jossy has pointed out the one thing everyone seems...Jossy has pointed out the one thing everyone seems to keep forgetting. No matter how tricked out HE are they are still only T3 so you hit them they die. They are also only S3 (White Lions & SM aside). So the Dragon Prince bus that ppl are fretting about is great on the turn it charges but after that all you have are a bunch of T3 S3 Elves doing no damage/no wounds and getting whacked by everything else. <br /><br />Havent got my copy of the new book yet *sigh* but from what I've read online it looks good. Probably wont change my list much expect it gives me a good reason to bring the Dragon Mage out and the new Loremaster looks good - pity its a Lord choice.<br /><br />The Flamespyre is cool but at 225pts thats 125 more than I would normally put into Rare with 2 Eagles and those points have to come from somewhere.<br /><br />S/Helms are also fine - when they charge - but they are still T3 S3, have a lower WS than Dragon Princes, dont get Dragon Armour, cant take a magical banner and the champion cant take a magic item - so as with 7th they're basically rubbish (IMO). <br /><br />The one rule I definately like is Marital Prowess - giving me an extra rank of attacks and the parry save vs. shooting for SM. But I dont think losing my re-rolls to hit was worth that - as you relied upon those to kill a crap load of enemy models in the first round of combat before they chewed through your 5+AS at T3.<br /><br />But we'll see - personally I will still be going infantry heavy as I like the models and hate painting horses.Bloomfield Cricket Clubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17638828532075913255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-9961720021447965722013-05-07T11:11:12.315+12:002013-05-07T11:11:12.315+12:00Must...downplay...must..mitigate..advantage... I&...Must...downplay...must..mitigate..advantage... I'm sure you're struggle through Tim, they'll hardly ever not charge, have ASF and fight in 3 ranks with super sweet elf-stats! :)Kiwi Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02554025268598951420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-23023442560408934252013-05-07T11:10:14.934+12:002013-05-07T11:10:14.934+12:00Give up on the Bear cavalry Simon its not going to...Give up on the Bear cavalry Simon its not going to happen and if it does Ill never use them... and Pete Organ Guns rolling to hit thats blasphemy Bloomfield Cricket Clubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17638828532075913255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-80922488868443775942013-05-07T10:55:53.500+12:002013-05-07T10:55:53.500+12:00You're a civil engineer aye? Well the next ti...You're a civil engineer aye? Well the next time I take advice from you regarding population health, will be the time I tell you how to build a bridge.Roriusmaximushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16503326337841075314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-44288651132386519932013-05-07T10:27:34.274+12:002013-05-07T10:27:34.274+12:00There still only 2+ save T3 knights which hit at S...There still only 2+ save T3 knights which hit at St3 after the first round. Its not that hard to deal with.<br />Jossyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18386542471306291066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-54353332659720367362013-05-07T10:24:33.673+12:002013-05-07T10:24:33.673+12:00Says the Jaffa. Mean while in the real world... =)...Says the Jaffa. Mean while in the real world... =)Jossyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18386542471306291066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-26760236357089300632013-05-06T21:04:51.424+12:002013-05-06T21:04:51.424+12:00I'm sorry Tim it's not news media that I&#...I'm sorry Tim it's not news media that I've been reading mate - it's actually studies! I'm sorry but I've spent too long at university looking at population health and statistics to be told otherwise. You need to get out of Invergiggle a little more for a reality check.Roriusmaximushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16503326337841075314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-37028964882803530242013-05-06T19:26:09.042+12:002013-05-06T19:26:09.042+12:00With a Book of Hoeth, a level 4 and High Magic I&#...With a Book of Hoeth, a level 4 and High Magic I'd expect the Elves to have broken through the Dwarven magic defence by T4 at the latest, especially as they destroy your scrolls and MRoBalance. I think they'll be able to cast most of their spells very easily and the unforging spell will get cast on your Runelord/smith every turn thus destroying or drawing scrolls easily. The only thing that's gonna challenge HE in the magic phase is an uncomped Lizard anti-magic setup.Jeff Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12568554852606287519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-80240787841881276662013-05-06T19:21:49.739+12:002013-05-06T19:21:49.739+12:00Holy hell, 40 comments already?
Pete must be an...Holy hell, 40 comments already? <br /><br />Pete must be an excellent fisherman because he has the baiting down perfectly, people just can't help biting ;)<br /><br />For my $0.02 worth I have bought the new book and had a good look at it. I really like the army and I think it will be solid. <br /><br />The biggest problems caused by World Dragon banner will be when it gets used on a unit like the Dragon Princes which have a 1+ armour and some army's will really struggle to kill that unit as anything that gets past the armour will hit a 2+ ward save. Dwarf rune marked warmachines will hate it, Daemons will not be happy and Skaven will suddenly find that it's immune to all of thier toys (and you can't even 6 dice 13th! to get rid of it!). That said Skaven will still probably be the happiest as they can just bury the unit in slaves.<br /><br />I am looking for a 2nd army at the minute so I can have some variation from just playing Skaven and I was tempted by HE but I am going with something else.<br /><br />Dave AAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-52994055976295970672013-05-06T18:37:42.518+12:002013-05-06T18:37:42.518+12:00Lol only if you believe the socialist drivel that ...Lol only if you believe the socialist drivel that is fed to you by the tabloids... err I mean news mediaJossyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18386542471306291066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-31617746786452708352013-05-06T17:12:13.961+12:002013-05-06T17:12:13.961+12:00I didn't necessarily mean you were saying such...I didn't necessarily mean you were saying such things Pete. <br />Where can I buy this bridge??? <br />High Elves got better due to amount of stuff you can do in the list and a point decrease across the board. <br />So yes... Slightly better :) PaWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04020409541094456187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-65834757401135148142013-05-06T17:06:20.168+12:002013-05-06T17:06:20.168+12:00+1 on that man, well said.
+1 on that man, well said.<br /><br />Simon Switzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17730143851750822114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-72560811724910553412013-05-06T16:52:04.201+12:002013-05-06T16:52:04.201+12:00Done*, whatever*
My spelling is on to it today, j...Done*, whatever*<br /><br />My spelling is on to it today, jesus.Simon Switzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17730143851750822114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-84213733101974350522013-05-06T16:50:54.765+12:002013-05-06T16:50:54.765+12:00No Peter, no!
@Gas Monkey - If they do introduce...No Peter, no! <br /><br />@Gas Monkey - If they do introduce movement (maybe with Bear cav but w/e ;D) there won't be rage quitting on my end, but a lot of pissing and moaning for the realization that I might actually have to learn something tactical instead of pew pewing my way to victory, a sad day that will be.<br /><br />@Rory - It can happen Rory, I must say I've don't it a few times me self, but if it fails we end up getting bent over and taken in the rear for our bold/tactical decision. Simon Switzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17730143851750822114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-41941848603161773382013-05-06T16:50:10.005+12:002013-05-06T16:50:10.005+12:00Well since you raised the point of socialism being...Well since you raised the point of socialism being a failed experiment I have to point out that deregulated countries such as NZ are experiencing increasing inequality (one of the fastest growing - as measured by the GINI index),127% debt to GDP, increased ill health and failed finance companies....whereas Scandinavian countries (largely regarded and run on a socialist model) seem to be doing quite well.<br />RIP Michael FootRoriusmaximushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16503326337841075314noreply@blogger.com