tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post8566456412805140016..comments2024-03-27T04:42:08.504+13:00Comments on Fields of Blood: KOW - GW - Why the Resentment?Pete Dunnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14352990006052067650noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-64483093179065084092017-04-25T23:09:30.898+12:002017-04-25T23:09:30.898+12:00Blowing up the Old World was bloody awful, and I d...Blowing up the Old World was bloody awful, and I don't remember 2015 with much fondness. But in hindsight, I'd never have tried KOW without it, and seen what a really good ruleset could be like. 8th was good, but this is better, much better.<br /><br />I see that GW is really making strides in improving its customer relations and engagements, good on them, long may it continue. But until they bring Aus/NZ pricing into line with actual exchange rates, they can bugger off. <br /><br />If they do though, I imagine I'll buy quite a bit of their stuff for KOW.Tanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00111345902716591780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-80543950530442867072017-04-25T19:37:56.908+12:002017-04-25T19:37:56.908+12:00No, Im all in on Malifaux at the moment. But think...No, Im all in on Malifaux at the moment. But think I might give new 40k a tryout.<br /><br />AoS isn't that bad a game these days though now Gw have developed it with points etcAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07457090195419524120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-73329878303687049192017-04-25T12:32:04.626+12:002017-04-25T12:32:04.626+12:00You playing AoS James?You playing AoS James?Pete Dunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14352990006052067650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-64842533550342475662017-04-25T11:47:27.831+12:002017-04-25T11:47:27.831+12:00And they have changed management and completely tu...And they have changed management and completely turned that attitude around. <br /><br />This version of 40k has been playtested and worked through with the community just like AoS is. If nothing else, it seems theyve learned some lessons from the AoS initial disaster (it certainly isnt one these days!)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07457090195419524120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-44918095921066234812017-04-25T07:05:49.964+12:002017-04-25T07:05:49.964+12:00hjp is right on. GW got increasingly arrogant and...hjp is right on. GW got increasingly arrogant and divorced from the gaming community. They made major mistakes with Lord of the Rings (Alessio wrote Lord of the Rings, but Matt Ward's War of the Rings book was a disaster and seriously damaged a small but growing player base), Fantasy, and then 40K to try to get more money out the existing player base and stopped aggressively trying to grow the player base in the US at least. They stopped play-testing, tried to shut down rumors and feedback on concepts in the works, and became increasingly insular. They did not listen to the better and longer serving store managers, stopped listening to (even attempting to shut down) the player base, and kept drinking their own Kool aide about how everything was fine. Revenues steadily eroded but profits were up for a time, until raising prices reached the pain threshold even for those that are loyal and with more disposable income. That is why they are not liked. SDHakalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16178707750275208444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-72581604371380945702017-04-25T06:53:12.089+12:002017-04-25T06:53:12.089+12:00Just a note:
people are mad at GW because they use...Just a note:<br />people are mad at GW because they used unsavory business practices to up their share price and then sell out. <br />They used short term sales techniques to get some burst sales, which hurts their business in the long run. hjp[https://www.blogger.com/profile/14076079445542333193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-12313980460915255762017-04-24T18:29:48.286+12:002017-04-24T18:29:48.286+12:00Dalton, new management at GW have changed their cu...Dalton, new management at GW have changed their customer interactions completely around. They are doing amazing things with the community now.<br /><br />Im not sure its being AoSed that much (rumoura seem rather 2nd Ed40k tbh) but <br />The best part of all of this is the number of players making sweeping statements about how ruined 40k will be based on what they show to be a complete lack of understanding of how AoS even works...<br /><br />Also what really confuses me is this exact thing (rules overhauls and redundant books/models) has occured in pretty much every major miniatures game I can think of...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07457090195419524120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-12998754867307512792017-04-24T18:18:47.552+12:002017-04-24T18:18:47.552+12:00I've only in the last few years tried 40k and ...I've only in the last few years tried 40k and found it difficult to get into, not in small part due to the number of rules (and because even if they shared a name with whfb they often had different mechanics). This in itself led to a greater appreciation of why they upturned the rule set for whfb. The fact that the KOW rule set is so streamlined in comparison just made it far easier to pick up and get into. If it was like the rules for whfb and 40k I probably wouldn't have bothered. The new CEO of GW has done a lot to get the company back on track with the customers and if the new 40k rules are more streamlined then I'll definitely be giving it another go.Knoffleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01367082469697780011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-9804160955097259932017-04-24T03:21:34.380+12:002017-04-24T03:21:34.380+12:00I left GW back with the ending of the specialist g...I left GW back with the ending of the specialist game line. WHFB always seemed clunky and unbalanced - 2nd edition, 3rd edition etc - they all claimed to be balanced and quick before turning into a method to sell models that ruined the game due to imbalance.<br />KOW brought me into large scale fantasy war gaming. <br /><br />My dislike for GW has been their general disregard of their established customer base. Dalton Calfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12020363992127711672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-33904785182961407982017-04-24T01:07:11.859+12:002017-04-24T01:07:11.859+12:00me too - I only got into KOW because GW killed off...me too - I only got into KOW because GW killed off the Old World. I love 8th ed.WFB though and still play it regularly - the fact that it isn't 'current' bothers me not one iotafluffydreadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13150842996704084518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342928539214422457.post-29146581505984129142017-04-23T21:04:24.306+12:002017-04-23T21:04:24.306+12:00I enjoy AoS but if it wasn't that I too would ...I enjoy AoS but if it wasn't that I too would never have taken a second look at KoW.Eryx_UKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15745459114536513706noreply@blogger.com